The more likely a state’s citizenry is to support the concept of ‘gay marriage’ the less likely that populace is to collectively value marriage.
Composite statistical ratios compiled from data collected at–
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/
and
http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:fcj1zKFiRRQJ:www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr51/51_06_03_03.pdf+%22number+of+marriages%22+state&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us&client=firefox-a
I’m in the process of entering the data into a spreadsheet for all states. I’m trying to see if MA (and so far this is the case) has the lowest marriage rate in the nation.
Here are the states I’ve done so far Relative Marriages per capita 0.18-Alabama 0.18-Alaska 0.07-Massachusetts 0.22-Utah 0.12-California 0.22-Florida 0.16-Georgia 0.44-Hawaii (tourism skewing this)
0.19-Arizona
0.23-Idaho
0.11-New York Divorce rates for the same states
0.12-Alabama
0.08-Alaska
0.06-Massachusetts (a mere 1pt less than it’s marriage rate)
0.11-Utah
0.NA-California
0.12-Florida
0.09-Georgia
0.09-Hawaii
0.15-Arizona
0.15-Idaho
0.11-New York (virtually the same as it’s marriage rate)
Ratio of Marriages to Divorces (first number marriages second number divorces)
3:2-Alabama
9:4-Alaska
7:6-Massachusetts
2:1-Utah
N/A-California
7:4-Florida
3:5-Georgia
11:2-Hawaii (tourism skewing this)
4:3-Arizona
11:7-Idaho
1:1-New York
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July 19th, 2010 at 5:42 am
god is going to …
god is going to destroy our sinful country in a fit of wrath.
i can’t understand why he didn’t do it after we let the negroes into the schools.
I’m glad that there are still a few god-fearing straight WHITES around here like hiveradical. Thank god that in some parts of america separate but EQUAL still reigns in the case of marriage.
July 19th, 2010 at 5:42 am
A heck of a lot …
A heck of a lot kids do better as only children, particularly where food is scarce. Augie is darn lucky that his Mom never married his Dad. She got pregnant,
fully confident that she had a perfect partner and then he fell off the wagon. Happens to Mormon women with temple marriages too–battering–mental cruelty. You know my situation with my father–my mother should have stayed with her parents and divorced him. My Grandparents sent my oldest Uncle up North to protect
us with his presence.
July 19th, 2010 at 5:42 am
This supposition …
This supposition rest upon your definition of what constitutes acceptable parenting. The Iowa State Supreme Court, for one, disagrees with you on that. See their written decision on the recent gay marriage case for determinations and cited authoritative sources on the issue.
July 19th, 2010 at 5:42 am
Equality should be …
Equality should be based on a meaningful and real equality, not merely on equalizing whatever best suites the wants of a group of individuals. Children entering a society that sees no meaningful distinction between the types of couple configurations would inherently present an unequal opportunity for those children in terms of their access to paternally intimate representation from both genders.
Meaningful/Real equality is context dependent. Your view on equality is deprivation/inequality
July 19th, 2010 at 5:42 am
I try not to base …
I try not to base my opinions on one source, which has been discredited by enough critics to cause me to wait for further confirmation of it’s findings. But it was a case of great interest.
The real point though is not projections of population. To me it is as the post above this thread says, “Equality should be based upon equality”.
July 19th, 2010 at 5:42 am
The most clearly …
The most clearly dysfunctional problem with the Gay identity cult is exactly this insane fear of overpopulation that makes it gravitate towards cultures of death. If reducing populations is your idea of what makes sense it logically follows that the Jonestown cult and nuclear war killing off the human race is the ideal we should all be striving towards. Greedy Gay cultists
don’t believe in human equality since they have more money than families who have kids. Their prison rapists aren’t liberty
July 19th, 2010 at 5:42 am
The highest …
The highest population growth rates in the world are those Muslim and African countries where homosexual behavior is a criminal felony and in some cases a capital offense. Its stupid to believe there is any social benefit in encouraging your
population to regard gender segregated
mutual masturbation beneficial to no one
to be equal to the biological sex human survival…and future taxpayers, voters,
and soldiers…depends. The Roman pagans logically get replaced by Catholics
and Muslims.
July 19th, 2010 at 5:42 am
But then again I am …
But then again I am sure you are going to say precisely the opposite thing about gay couples with children (the majority of which one of them is a biological parent to each child … and they wouldn’t exist in the first place if its wasn’t for them). Those children deserve protections and “tracking” / accountability as well.
July 19th, 2010 at 5:42 am
If you want your …
If you want your ideologies to be relevant pay attention to what demographers actually say about things RATHER than basing your perception on pop culture common ‘knowledge’
July 19th, 2010 at 5:42 am
SisterUnity,
…
SisterUnity,
Natural Selection dictates that it must be the ideal for those who will survive into, and thusly BE, the future of humanity. You would do well to look into the book by a liberal who got alarmed when he looked at the real demographic picture and trends facing the world. The book “The Empty Cradle” demonstrates, with an exhaustively built and defended case, that the illusion of a population explosion problem is the opposite of reality.
July 19th, 2010 at 5:42 am
Though, that idea …
Though, that idea is based on a presumption that having more children is a universal ideal. With a world population of 6 billion and growing, with the attendant difficulties, it’s not an ideal all share.
Also, social philosophies, such as equality for all citizens despite sexual orientation, are more often promulgated by culture and communication than by birth and rearing. Especially when, in the case of equality of liberty, “We hold these truths to be self-evident”.
July 19th, 2010 at 5:42 am
so basic human …
so basic human rights should be denied to gay people? people have more of a choice in the religion they pick then sexual orientation. and there are countless laws protecting religion. your numbers don’t change that equality should be equality.
July 19th, 2010 at 5:42 am
The problem with …
The problem with this is that there’s still no good or firm way to measure the degree, and thusly the impact, of instability on Children emergent from a marriage rate that’s so low.
Even if I am wrong in this impacting more illegitimate children that will only come in the face of simply not having many children. If MA is not having many children then it has the more dubious trait of being anti-children. And what bulwark of culture can advance without sufficiently large upcoming generation?
July 19th, 2010 at 5:42 am
Even if the end …
Even if the end result is fewer children that’s also not a promising trend. If MA is suppose to be amongst the avant garde in terms of social policy and they’re also the ones least likely to replace themselves and spread their influence then their fertility rates being low doesn’t bode well for the promulgation of their ‘progressive’ world view.
July 19th, 2010 at 5:42 am
2007 American …
2007 American Community Survey 1-Year Estimates (100%=all housholds surveyed)
All families w/kids 18 and under:
MA: 30.1%, UT: 39.8%, USA: 31.1%
Married families w/kids:
MA: 21.4%, UT: 32.4%, USA: 21.4%
Unmarried men w/kids:
MA: 2.3%, UT: 1.9%, USA: 2.3%
Unmarried women w/kids:
MA: 7.1%, UT: 5.5%, USA: 7.4%
UT is more faithful, but MA is average in the country, not “anti marriage.”
July 19th, 2010 at 5:42 am
I looked at the …
I looked at the quickfacts link and there isn’t a lot of detail to look at re: single parent families…
Population, percent change, April 1, 2000 to July 1, 2006
MA: 1.4%
UT: 14.2%
USA: 6.4%
Fewer marriages, but also fewer children? Of course this isn’t strictly childbirth growth, isolated. Limited by the broadness of the data. This might however point to a different place than “people in Massachusetts have more kids outside of marriage and therefore do not value marriage.”
July 19th, 2010 at 5:42 am
You might find if …
You might find if you looked at different numbers that Massachusetts is simply producing fewer children. You are drawing the conclusion that MA’s extending marriage to gays implies they don’t respect marriage and are “shacking up” and having a lot of kids out of wedlock…but you present no numbers to support that conclusion. Fewer marriages to more illegitimate children is a bit of a leap.